FurN Behavior Options

[Deedlit79]

Why is it that when you sit in the area with the fires in Furn, people get all uppity with you? You speak and they jump down your throat, calling you all sorts of profanities. Why?
For example, tonight I was there and these people started saying things like
Deedlit, you art sucks ******!" I asked myself, what the heck did I do to deserve this!?
Later, another furre started critiquing me, saying nothing but bad stuff about my art, making me 'PROVE" my artwork. That I can shade etc. It just blows. Why must people be so mean? Darnit furres... BE FRIENDLY! *tickles you all!!*

[Shinichi Kudo]

The scientific term for such people is " ###### " .... just ignore them ;x

[Deedlit79]

The scientific term for such people is " ###### " .... just ignore them ;x

*Wonders what " ######" is!*

[Shinichi Kudo]

*Wonders what " ######" is!*

The longer a-word o.o for some reason the censoring's missing a #

[Deedlit79]

Aaahh. *nods in agreement* Still... it's just plain rude of them!

[Emerald Flame]

I have to ask, why go there and bait them? Think of a town or city. Would you walk into any areas of town and sit down for a chat? Not that I think it's right that these furres act this way and segregate themselves, but I also don't think it's right to stick around where you are unwelcome and then complain about it on the forums. I really think these groups need to think about how their behavior hurts themselves. They not only foster hate and intollerance, the very things that are messing up society today, but they might actually learn something from others if they opened their minds a bit. However, I don't think purposefully getting in their faces is the way to go. We made M16+ map so that older furres had places to go where it was ok to "be bad".

[Req LeBeax]

well it's not just in furn, there are many main map hang outs that have these groups of people, i was sitting in Meo next to that tree and some how having the muskrat in my desc just set them off on me, sheesh, and don't get me started in furn, i don't stay long out of private dreams there, i just don't want to put up with it, some furs arn't even worth the effort to ignore

[Deedlit79]

Well, Emerald Flame you are right. Going to Furn is 'asking for it", however, there are a few people who hang out there and I enjoy messing around. I myself am no saint sometimes and I can get rowdy. *nods* But just people in general. I think it's because they're bored.

[Cironir]

Emmie touches a good point. Certain types of behaviour foster hateful responses, and while some feel that this is "cool" (it's attention after all), in the long run it inflicts stress and backfires in form of a feeling of dissatisfaction and, I guess, "unhappiness". If you go there to "mess with them", both sides will get some "entertainment" out of it, but at the end everyone just gets aggravated -- so, it seems a little pointless to me. Might as well save yourself the stress and let people be, stay away from the spots where the "not so nice furres" gather (there are only a few spots) and surround yourself with friendly folks -- by far the most players in Furcadia are genuinely nice and helpful, and look for friendship rather than fights.

[Micheru]

But what about the people that furcadia loses DUE to them? If I were a newbie and I wandered into one of these groups and sat down for a chat, and they started calling me names and saying the things that they do, I would say, "Well this furcadia game is full of pitiful, sad little people, who I am not one of." I would log off, delete the installation of the game, and go back to my life.

I would not be spending the couple of hundred dollars that I have over the years to support furcadia, and I would not be giving to the community as a beekin and happy, dedicated citizen.

So, think about that.
~Micheru

[Damadar]

If you let one group of people dictate your experiences you are, in fact, one of those pitiful people; you just don't act out about it in quite the same manner.

I don't think most nebs find those groups to be that bad, anyway. I see plenty of newbs wander over to the Fire pits and the Wiz Tree and Haven (Oops, Hawthorne) and just laugh at the rude people.

Deedlit, we can't give you an accurate response because we didn't see the entire conversation from both sides; however I am willing to bet that going into the Fire Pits you knew the kind of reaction you were going to get. Why did you bother dropping by in the first place?

I think it's because they're bored.

Some of us just don't like certain types of people.

[Sorcy]

Ever heard of the saying irl "Think about the Children??"
I guess in Micheru's case "Think about the new players."

[Micheru]

"Some of us just don't like certain types of people. "

Cause that totally gives you the right to be openly hostile to them.

"If you let one group of people dictate your experiences you are, in fact, one of those pitiful people; you just don't act out about it in quite the same manner."

I am not a newfurre, and I have ran into these same kind of hostile cliques on every map. The wisdom tree group in Meo, some of the larger clumps of furres in NH, some of the groups in Imag, witnessed some of it in the fluff pit and other tucked away areas of Naia and challenges. It's not just one group being hostile, it's an unhealthy attitude that is carried by many furcadians.

"I don't think most nebs find those groups to be that bad, anyway. I see plenty of newbs wander over to the Fire pits and the Wiz Tree and Haven (Oops, Hawthorne) and just laugh at the rude people."

Good for then, but it's still an unhealthy attitude that I feel ruins the feeling of furcadia. If you want to be a dick, be a dick in your own dream, use a bot to keep people out, or DS locked doors.

~Micheru

[Mandaliet]

"Some of us just don't like certain types of people. "

Cause that totally gives you the right to be openly hostile to them.

Yeah, who needs tolerance anyway?

Non-sarcastically: The level of intolerance I sometimes see on Furcadia sickens me. Still, I'm of the opinion that it's best not to care when people act this way... but I don't think it's realistic to expect everyone not to care. It's a normal human reaction to be upset when someone's being a jerk to you.

Also, saying that it's someone's fault for being upset is often used as an flimsy excuse to treat people like crap.

[Damadar]

"Some of us just don't like certain types of people. "

Cause that totally gives you the right to be openly hostile to them.

"If you let one group of people dictate your experiences you are, in fact, one of those pitiful people; you just don't act out about it in quite the same manner."

I am not a newfurre, and I have ran into these same kind of hostile cliques on every map. The wisdom tree group in Meo, some of the larger clumps of furres in NH, some of the groups in Imag, witnessed some of it in the fluff pit and other tucked away areas of Naia and challenges. It's not just one group being hostile, it's an unhealthy attitude that is carried by many furcadians.

"I don't think most nebs find those groups to be that bad, anyway. I see plenty of newbs wander over to the Fire pits and the Wiz Tree and Haven (Oops, Hawthorne) and just laugh at the rude people."

Good for then, but it's still an unhealthy attitude that I feel ruins the feeling of furcadia. If you want to be a dick, be a dick in your own dream, use a bot to keep people out, or DS locked doors.

~Micheru

Whoa there cowboy. Reign that horse in before he runs you too far ahead of the pack.

The irony in your post astounds me to the point that I wonder if you were being serious. I'll assume that you were, however.

First of all, I'm at the Wisdom Tree almost all day long these days, and normally there's not much hostility. It's a few people. Stop with the generalizations. Secondly, a lot of the people that aren't new people who are harassed, (read that as: People who're established in the community,) feel the need to be jackasses because they're either, "Not accepted" by the group, or they did soemthing stupid and got trounced soundly. (So they keep comming back to harass the guys over and over again.)

There's a lot more under the surface than a general, "We don't like you," sent out to everyone. Usually, it's just the people that don't have a lot of common sense. I have no problems sitting at the Wisdom Tree. (I also have about as thick a skin as it's possible to have, though, so maybe that's why.)

And I resent the fact that you're putting words in my mouth. Do not do it again. I never said I didn't want to talk to people, or help new people. I do so quite regularly. One of the reasons I do not hide myself in a dream is because, on occasion, I'll meet an interesting person whith whom I'd enjoy a regular conversation. Nobody said I "Want to be a dick", and I'd kindly appreciate you appologizing for insinuating that all I do is sit around and ###### at people.

Putting words, thoughts, and actions onto someone other than yourself is unhealthy, Micheru, and if you feel the need to do it, I suggest you go to your own forums and do so there.


Sorcy: There's a highly intense difference between Furcadia and Real Life. I dislike the association that you put on me, assuming I'm not new-furre friendly. I'm anything but. I do not, however, like it when people go out of their way to annoy me, or refuse to speak in complete sentences. Typo's are a very easy to overlook thing, netspeak, however, is not. The aforementioned are the two groups I was entertaining when I wrote the last post, but you assumed I meant newfurres. You'll have to forgive me for disliking the headaches that both groups cause.


Mandaliet: You'll have to forgive me for being intollerant of people that come up to harass me because they saw me in The Muskrat or because they know I'm a mason or because they saw a forum post I made. I believe fully in standing behind what I've said and going the full length to defend it and back it up with any and all evidence that I have to stand behind it. I absolutely refuse to be pushed around by some jackass who thinks it's his right in life to make my experience on Furcadia a living hell just because he's feeling saucy. There was nothing in what I said about tossing tolerance out the window. I'm very tolerant of many things, that doesn't mean I should have to be a saint to every person I meet, especially when they give a bad first impression.



I think I've covered my bases on this topic. The ball is in y'all's court now.

[Mandaliet]

Mandaliet: You'll have to forgive me for being intollerant of people that come up to harass me because they saw me in The Muskrat or because they know I'm a mason or because they saw a forum post I made. I believe fully in standing behind what I've said and going the full length to defend it and back it up with any and all evidence that I have to stand behind it. I absolutely refuse to be pushed around by some jackass who thinks it's his right in life to make my experience on Furcadia a living hell just because he's feeling saucy. There was nothing in what I said about tossing tolerance out the window. I'm very tolerant of many things, that doesn't mean I should have to be a saint to every person I meet, especially when they give a bad first impression.

I wasn't talking directly to you in my post; I was more discussing things I see that are related to this. Your refusal "to be pushed around by some jackass who thinks it's his right in life to make my experience on Furcadia a living hell just because he's feeling saucy" seems to fit with what I'm saying. It's natural to feel that way.

[Ottomatic]

This thread is full of lol.

Carry on, I have nothing further to add.

[Rafierno]

A quick bump to save the FurN fires reputation.

I'm sorry, but we just don't take kindly of your kind around (t)here.

Most of the people at the fires are friends, to some degree, and outsiders just don't mesh in most of the time. When they come in and instantly start acting superior/degrading to the regulars, ofcourse you're pushing things. Yes, making fun of you is indeed amusing, and I really think I'm 'Cool' when I do it. It makes me smile in real life and I feel good about it all day. It's just our way of saying 'hi', unless you're not that bright, then I/we usually mean it.

Remember, we're just saying hi!

[Wild Wolf]

"If you let one group of people dictate your experiences you are, in fact, one of those pitiful people; you just don't act out about it in quite the same manner."

I am not a newfurre, and I have ran into these same kind of hostile cliques on every map. The wisdom tree group in Meo, some of the larger clumps of furres in NH, some of the groups in Imag, witnessed some of it in the fluff pit and other tucked away areas of Naia and challenges. It's not just one group being hostile, it's an unhealthy attitude that is carried by many furcadians.

"I don't think most nebs find those groups to be that bad, anyway. I see plenty of newbs wander over to the Fire pits and the Wiz Tree and Haven (Oops, Hawthorne) and just laugh at the rude people."

Good for then, but it's still an unhealthy attitude that I feel ruins the feeling of furcadia. If you want to be a dick, be a dick in your own dream, use a bot to keep people out, or DS locked doors.

~Micheru

I just have one question.. what do you propose to do about it? Apparently they do not wish to shut themselves up in a private dream and have more 'fun' attacking furres as they come and sit. It's not like you can baby-sit those areas and watch over them day and night. There will always be bad behavior somewhere to counter the good (yin and yang type thing) and there isn't much you can do. We cannot get along with everyone in the world even if we tried.. best thing to do is move on.

[Darx]

If I were a newbie and I wandered into one of these groups and sat down for a chat, and they started calling me names and saying the things that they do, ... I would log off, delete the installation of the game, and go back to my life.

~Micheru

Instead you've wasted the last several years of your life playing Furcadia?

Damn, we're doing a public service.
I never looked at it like that before.
Thanks, Micheru.