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Nameless one
post Feb 4 2008, 05:47 PM
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Nameless one

OK I know the name of the game is furcadia, but i see a lot of players that list them selfs as a human, what about that as a new charictor? I mean its only a sugestion but i think a lot of people would chose that...
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Aubri
post Feb 4 2008, 05:50 PM
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Aubri

This has been debated repeatedly. I feel if you want to be a human, go to a dream that allows you to do so, or play a different game. I hate to be harsh, but I think adding humans as a main avatar would ruin the purpose and uniqueness of this game. If you desperately would like to be a human, there are other games that allow us to do so.
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Nathan Hall
post Feb 5 2008, 01:29 AM
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Nathan Hall

You can't have humans running around in "Furcadia." Things will always be changing with Furc, but I HIGHLY doubt that will be one of those things.
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Sirum Hest
post Feb 5 2008, 02:05 AM
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Sirum Hest

Use a feline with skin-colored fur and patterns, then slap a human port on it.

It's not a human, but it's the best you'll get for quite some time until the vocal majority on Furcadia stop growling about "FURRRRRcadia!" (despite the wyrmmes and the dragons and the avians and the bugges). rolleyes.gif
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Justin StinCoy
post Feb 5 2008, 03:18 AM
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Justin StinCoy

Humans have been suggested many times before.

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Tsandra
post Feb 5 2008, 06:45 AM
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Tsandra

QUOTE(Sirum Hest @ Feb 5 2008, 08:05 AM) [snapback]343657[/snapback]
Use a feline with skin-colored fur and patterns, then slap a human port on it.

It's not a human, but it's the best you'll get for quite some time until the vocal majority on Furcadia stop growling about "FURRRRRcadia!" (despite the wyrmmes and the dragons and the avians and the bugges). rolleyes.gif
...which are all anthropomorphic (and/or mythical) animals of some kind, if not actually furry. A bit of faulty logic there, I think, captain.

If you want to play a human, there are hundreds, if not thousands, of MMORPGs and MUDs that will let you. Why make another WoW clone out of Furc?
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Damadar
post Feb 5 2008, 02:15 PM
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Damadar

First, adding 'humans' would not make Furcadia a clone of WoW any more than it would make it a clone of Deal or No Deal. They're not the same thing, they're barely in the same Genre.

Furcadia, as Felorin has said numerous times here on the forums, is not about furry. It's about user created content.

Anthropomorphism is all about being /like/ a human. By the way, Humans are animals too, in case you all weren't aware, so saying, 'it's all about animals' is kinda silly.

The thing a lot of people overlook insofar as Furcadia is concerned is that The game is pretty much unique insofar as other games go. I don't, for example, get the same feel from a game like Second Life or World of Warcraft that I do from Furcadia.

People aren't claiming that this 1 avatar will make-or-break their Furcadia experience, so please stop telling them to GTFO for wanting to play a human, and stop trying to act like it would flat out destroy the game entirely; it would do neither, just like every update hasn't done so.

Anybody remember how many people were complaining and moaning about how much Gendered avatars were going to ruin Furcadia? Or how about Feral avatars ruining Furcadia?

Seems Furcadia's still standing to me, and both of those were huge milestones that Furcadia overcame that a lot of players wanted, and a lot of players didn't. A lot of both sides are still around.

The avatars aren't Furcadia's biggest draw to keep players around anyway. It's the community and dreams that do it. The addition of a human avatar wouldn't change either of those dynamically.

If DEP does offer one, (which I'm sure they will in the future; I'd almost bank on it,) it will 98.8% likely be a pay-for 'seasonal' avatar. Why? Because they aren't in-cannon. For private dreams, you can turn those off, so it won't mess up continuity. It'll make Furcadia a lot of money; that'll allow'em to add in more features.
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Sirum Hest
post Feb 5 2008, 02:57 PM
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Sirum Hest

QUOTE(Tsandra @ Feb 5 2008, 06:45 AM) [snapback]343678[/snapback]
...which are all anthropomorphic (and/or mythical) animals of some kind, if not actually furry. A bit of faulty logic there, I think, captain.

If you want to play a human, there are hundreds, if not thousands, of MMORPGs and MUDs that will let you. Why make another WoW clone out of Furc?


When I think 'furry' I see anthromorphic felines, canines, foxes, etc. Feral dogs, feral cats, feral foxes, feral penguins, feral kiwis, lizards, bugs and birds don't quite fit into it, in my mind. :p It's a technicality.

MMORPGs are not for roleplaying the vast majority of the time, they are for grinding numbers endlessly. I play Furcadia because it "Let(s) your imagination soar!" and gives the most freedom of any roleplaying game I've found to date, as well as providing the most user-friendly user-created content feature.

Also, we can play humans on Furcadia just fine as it is, I play several with no issue - each with their own distinctly human portrait. Have I ruined the game for you and turned it into World of Warcraft? If not, why do human portraits not ruin the game but a human avatar would?
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Shinichi Kudo
post Feb 5 2008, 03:08 PM
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Shinichi Kudo

QUOTE(Damadar @ Feb 5 2008, 02:15 PM) [snapback]343747[/snapback]

If DEP does offer one, (which I'm sure they will in the future; I'd almost bank on it,) it will 98.8% likely be a pay-for 'seasonal' avatar. Why? Because they aren't in-cannon. For private dreams, you can turn those off, so it won't mess up continuity. It'll make Furcadia a lot of money; that'll allow'em to add in more features.
I disagree. It is possible, yet I highly doubt it. Also, I don't think it would be a seasonal avatar either. I think it would rather be a normal avatar everyone could use, not a digo.



To the idea itself: It has been discussed many times before, yep, and I'd still rather not have humans on furcadia x) I'm not a furry, but well, I'm kinda used to this animal-only environment.

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Damadar
post Feb 5 2008, 03:13 PM
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Damadar

People thought that about a variety of avatars; like the Ferians and the Gendered avatars.

They're digos.

It only makes sense for Furcadia to make it a digo and not a free/regular avatar. To make it a free/regular avatar would be to, A.) Go against continuity, and B.) Not make them any additional money.

The Human avatar is sought after to such an extent that it would be an excellent additional avatar to the seasonal-digo lineup.
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Tarquin Lightfoot
post Feb 6 2008, 06:34 PM
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Tarquin Lightfoot

QUOTE(Sirum Hest @ Feb 5 2008, 02:05 AM) [snapback]343657[/snapback]
Use a feline with skin-colored fur and patterns, then slap a human port on it.

It's not a human, but it's the best you'll get for quite some time until the vocal majority on Furcadia stop growling about "FURRRRRcadia!" (despite the wyrmmes and the dragons and the avians and the bugges). rolleyes.gif




Thing is Furcadia has a cannon that does not include humans. I'm fine with this although Id o have a few human characters. To put humans in Furcadia is going to be forcing Dragonlands cannon Rpers to let humans in. (or patch over humans.)





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Damadar
post Feb 6 2008, 07:28 PM
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Damadar

QUOTE(Tarquin Lightfoot @ Feb 6 2008, 06:34 PM) [snapback]344033[/snapback]

Thing is Furcadia has a cannon that does not include humans. I'm fine with this although Id o have a few human characters. To put humans in Furcadia is going to be forcing Dragonlands cannon Rpers to let humans in. (or patch over humans.)


Unless it's a seasonal avatar, which is what I made mention of.
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Mauser
post Feb 7 2008, 06:50 AM
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Mauser

i'm perfectly content to use the canine avatar for all of my human characters, and as much as i love using them for roleplay (and by this i mean 99.9% of my characters aren't of the furry variety) i don't want to see them on main maps.

i'd rather people make custom avatars for their dreams, or get creative with what avatar suits their non-anthropomorphic character best! plus there's the whole thing about the continuity and whatnot. smile.gif
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Seley
post Feb 7 2008, 08:59 AM
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Seley

Point the first: Furcadia is traditionally about anthropomorphic animals, not humans.

Point the second: Furcadia is, surprisingly, NOT actually populated only by furries, I meet a LOT of people who just like the game for customization or whatnot, there are many more "draws" to the game than just "hey furries come play this!"

I propose a compromise:

Monkeys.

Whether you believe in evolution or not, you have to admit, they do just look like fuzzy humans with a tail. smile.gif Introducing a primate might make everybody happy. The humans would have a base primate avatar (with a tail, but they can ignore that) and the furries would be pleased that it was still technically a non-human mammal.

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Damadar
post Feb 7 2008, 04:22 PM
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Damadar

A monkey wouldn't sell nearly as well as a human.

In fact, if it were about 'ignoring', then there wouldn't need to be a difference in avatars at all. You could 'ignore' the fact that your canine doesn't look like a kitty, for example.

And there's more than just roleplay involved. I'm a socializer for the most part. I sit in Naia or Meovanni most of the time and I'd like a human avatar to represent me.

It's not just about roleplay; it's also about a statement. (Wings, for example, aren't a 'roleplay' statement for a lot. They buy them because they look nice.)
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Nameless one
post Feb 7 2008, 05:15 PM
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Nameless one

I agree with you all, i did not start this thread for my own needs. I personaly love being an animal, i am a huge furry, but at times i would like to shake it up and play as a human. I see people playing as humans all the time. Monkeys would be cool insted but still a lot of people who dont use the forum probibly want to play as humans, and this would also bring a whole new crowd of people to the game.
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Rat The Unloved
post Feb 7 2008, 11:04 PM
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Rat The Unloved

Even though I've done a LOT of human avatars for strict-human-only continuities, and even released one with Talz... I do not support the addition of a regular human avatar.

Seasonal? Yeah, sure. With the uber-special nature of seasonals and their cost bracket this seems the most reasonable to me. You want something WAY out there (like, oh, a penguin or a kiwi, or a chinchilla.. or the only Human in a game where non-hominids arose as the dominant species) you should have to pay for that.

Again, though, this has been debated until all the juicy drops have been wrung from it. It is ultimately up to DEP to decide.

I had to give sincere thought to leaving the game with the introduction of Furlings. It'd probably cause a lot of people to quit for good if Humans came around.
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Squizzle
post Feb 7 2008, 11:17 PM
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Squizzle

Heh a lil Planet of the Furries where Humans are slaves, no? I don't see the point in introducing a "Human" species into a game called "Furcadia" (name says all..). Besides, anyone could make a dream where all the species were "Human".

Also, like Rat the Unloved pointed out, if a new species were to be introduced you would probably have to pay for it and I really doubt DEP would make much money off of a "Human" species. I'm sure that is one of the main reasons that they wouldn't introduce it because very few people would actually buy them.

Monkeys.. theres something that might make money. Monkey see, monkey do. wink.gif *hint hint*
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