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> Taur Avi Petition, We need to have Taurs all over Furcadia
chakatstarpelt
post Feb 12 2008, 03:19 PM
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Group: Furres

chakatstarpelt

Alright I love furcadia and I love the dreams that let me be a chakat but there are so few of them around now that I think it's time Furcadia started to let the taurs be taurs. Come on folks taurs have feelings too. We taurs deserve to be able to walk about furcadia on our taur body while having our anthro half held proud. What I am suggesting is that eithe have a taur digo that will transform the player into a taur version of thier species or have a taur opetion when creating a character either one would be wonderful. If there are any who agree with me please sign here and let our voices be heard.

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Deedlit79
post Feb 12 2008, 03:21 PM
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Deedlit79

Furcadia dosen't like pettitions. Just simply make your suggestion in a nice way and you -will- be seen.
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super villain
post Feb 12 2008, 03:25 PM
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super villain

Petitions arent 'mean' They are a list of people who want/like a specific thing, that's it.
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Cerberos
post Feb 12 2008, 03:28 PM
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Cerberos

I agree csmile.gif



*signs petition*

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Kiera Dulane
post Feb 12 2008, 03:42 PM
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Kiera Dulane

I agree as well! *signs* Especially since it was such a great idea to begin with. se.gif
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Aubri
post Feb 12 2008, 03:45 PM
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Group: Furres

Aubri

QUOTE(Emerald Flame @ Feb 11 2008, 10:33 PM) [snapback]345142[/snapback]
Petitions are generally a way to really ###### off someone who is running something. They are an act of aggression meant to try and force someone to do something they hadn't planned on.


Yeah. The petition isn't the best way to handle things. And personally, I wouldn't want to see a bunch of taurs roaming around.
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"S" Cheetah
post Feb 12 2008, 03:49 PM
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Group: Furres


I concurr. Taurs should be able to appear in furcadia, not just in some dreams. I hereby sign this petition biggrin.gif
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Chakat Silvertail
post Feb 12 2008, 03:50 PM
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Group: Furres

Chakat Silvertail

Count me in
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Chakat Novapelt
post Feb 12 2008, 03:53 PM
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Chakat Novapelt

everyone loves taurs i'll sign this anyday
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Kain Ragnorok
post Feb 12 2008, 03:59 PM
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Kain Ragnorok

Petitons are a good way of getting people to notice you if they are ignoring you, like passing around a petition in your local community to better be heard.

In Furcadia, however, it's a sign of aggression. It's forcing your opinions on DEP (a tiny company) when they already have plans, and already read this forum. If you say, "Hey, taurs in Furc would be cool!" then it's all good. There's a popularly suggested avatars thread around here somewhere. Post in that. But DEP dislikes petitions and doesn't regard them.

Also, do you know how much art that would involve? You'd have to make a new avatar for every existing avatar. Personally, I'd MUCH rather DEP work on something other than taur Digos. Like Group packages, more PS and live edit capabilities, new innovations like KitterSpeak, etc.
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Sable Drakon
post Feb 12 2008, 04:00 PM
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Sable Drakon

I sign as well. As for those saying that a petition is a bad idea and a sign of aggression, I ask only what aggression is there in a simple request? We are not threatening to leave nor even harm others, just to have the ability to walkabout as taurs.
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Drovige
post Feb 12 2008, 04:08 PM
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Drovige

I agree with this petition,having a more out of the ordinary character to play sound like a good idea to me.
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Xxysthstris
post Feb 12 2008, 04:12 PM
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Group: Furres

Xxysthstris

QUOTE(Sable Drakon @ Feb 12 2008, 04:00 PM) [snapback]345246[/snapback]
I sign as well. As for those saying that a petition is a bad idea and a sign of aggression, I ask only what aggression is there in a simple request? We are not threatening to leave nor even harm others, just to have the ability to walkabout as taurs.

A petition is different from both a suggestion and a request. A petition presents itself as a demand from a group of individuals.

There are many things many people want to see in Furcadia, petitioning for them isn't a great way of suggesting it be implemented when the owners and developers clearly do not appreciate that particular method of approaching the subject. If anything: it'll likely lessen your chances of being heard.
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chakatstarpelt
post Feb 12 2008, 04:30 PM
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Group: Furres

chakatstarpelt

I didnt know anything about them considering pettitions an act of agression though personally I don't see why. I was asked to start this by several other taurs and I did. Whatever results it gets I will accept but I am not trying to force anyone or be agressive.
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super villain
post Feb 12 2008, 04:42 PM
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Group: Furres

super villain

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A petition presents itself as a demand from a group of individuals.


No it doesnt. A petition is a list of who wants what, it is just useful information.

A petition is a good way to see 'exactly' how many people want/support something.

Its not a demand, its not a strike, its not a threat, its just information.
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Xxysthstris
post Feb 12 2008, 04:48 PM
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Xxysthstris

QUOTE(super villain @ Feb 12 2008, 04:42 PM) [snapback]345255[/snapback]
No it doesnt. A petition is a list of who wants what, it is just useful information.

It does when it is posed in a manner which dictates a demand for one thing or another.

I'll clarify:

Petitions are requests to a higher authority. In this case a petition is being put towards Dragon's Eye Productions to make taurian avatars readily available. -- A method clearly stated to not being an acceptable method in getting something added. -- If it were to be collective of data, there are better methods of going about it.
You can collect data by hunting down players who would like to see taurian avatars, and run the number of positive advocates against the total number of players to get an estimated percentage of interest. And all without putting forwards a petition.

Even with a number on hand, it's not guaranteed. And I reckon if too many of these crop up, it'll become another bit of unwelcomed information (or joyously welcomed if it turns out to be a wholly productive method of handling these collective interests).
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Smear
post Feb 12 2008, 05:33 PM
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Group: Furres

Smear

Ick. No taurs.
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Gar
post Feb 12 2008, 06:41 PM
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Group: DEP Admins

Gar

If I may chime in. It's all a matter of tone. These forum are read regularly, especially the suggestions forum. There is no need for a petition to grab atteion. Simply changing the tone of the thread to: I'd like to see taurs in Furcadia, who agrees with me?
...see..same effect, long list of people agreeing with you, much notice, less of a 'we want this or else!' tone to the thread. smile.gif
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Rat The Unloved
post Feb 12 2008, 07:05 PM
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Rat The Unloved

So you're suggesting Furcadia make NINE new Taurian avatars, offered as a single digo?

Firstly, they'd have to completely create those nine new avatars from scratch more or less (because you'd have people complaining if they "just pasted the defaults onto ferians" or "Feh, just used more of Kae's FREE stuff") then have to impliment more server-side coding, release an enitrely new update, and price this digo accordingly.

It's true that you can get the Furling (three avatars for the price of one) rather inexpensively, but this is because they cannot be used on all maps. Taurs, basically, could be. That'd make Taurians, even at that fair pricing scheme, cost $50 or more a year.

I don't mind the idea of Taurians, however creating one for each species is currently beyond the financial reach of Furcadia unless someone was extremely generous and donated complete, original, artwork out of the kindness of their heart. I believe there's a Taurian somewhere in the planned Mythicals (speci2 lists a MYFE, MYCA and MYMI. MYFE and MYCA have been suspected of meaning "Mythical Felitaur" and "Mythical Canitaur").

The thing is that if you can't -find- a dream, try making one. That's what a lot of us do. Kain Ragnorok and myself BOTH made versions of the same Felitaur/Chakat avatar, and I have resized the ferians in such a way that making Canitaurs would be extremely easy. Kaelin'yFiae has a Furretaur patch on her patch archive that covers most of the default species, and I've considered making the rest to be nice and release them for free.

Your avatar need is very specific, and very niche. I have personally only ever spoken to one other player besides yourself that wanted to play a Taurian. Furcadia will get around to it on their own time, as they do with other options and updates.
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Mino
post Feb 13 2008, 12:14 AM
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Group: Furres

Mino

Just give us felitaurs and I'll be in furry heaven.
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